Recording in the public domain.
Transcript adapted from “Lyndon Johnson, Bill Moyers, and Walter Jenkins on 8 February 1964,” Tape WH6402.11, Citations #1971 and #1972, Presidential Recordings Digital Edition[Toward the Great Society, vol. 4, ed. Robert David Johnson and Kent B. Germany] (Charlottesville: University of Virginia Press, 2014–). URL: http://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/9040108. Reproduced with permission.